Subject	pretty straightforward
Posted by	vorpalZ on April 21, 2011 at 10:33 AM
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In Reply To	I honestly haven't looked into oil analysis before but it posted by Ash's Z on April 20, 2011 at 08:59 PM
Message	You need to build a baseline and a series of samples with a fairly consistent history to see if a change like PCV delete makes a change in your sample results. One sample won't tell you much. In addition to the particulate count and element level analysis, there are the viscousity tests and VI rating based against a new reference sample for a given oil product. Also, % of fuel and glycol in the sample are measured in a basic tests. my sample history: oil analysis reports What I can say is that the last three tests were done on the engine with the PCV system re-routed from the top of the valve covers, the first three was with a stock PCV system. Fuel is present in all samples, fairly high level (4.9%) in sample #2, and consistent around 1.75 - 2% in the last three samples. If I deleted the PCV system entirely, then I would be checking against these samples to see what the VI of the used oil and fuel % were to determine detrimental effects on the motor. You can have further tests done as well, depending on what you're looking for. Regards, WARNING!  Forum posts are likely to contain traces of irony. If you believe you may be suffering from an irony deficiency please consult your physician. My Zs are hybrid vehicles, they run on gasoline and money I'm off to wax mine and go for a drive now. - BigTDogg (MA) 07:17:08 07/17/09 times change, people change, but the Z32 still kicks ass. - apudapus 16:46:02 06/15/07 I was more wondering how you set your climate control to 22* lol, it would be that fastest freezer on wheels! - Briscoe'sZ32 (NJ) 23:15:44 02/05/07 You have *got* to be getting a cut from B&B :D - SeedyROM 15:24:29 08/16/06 What do you think B&B stands for? - YugoBernie (NoVA) 15:57:09 08/16/06
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(n/m) - Russell@Z1 17:28:36 04/19/11 Re: PCV System, Explained, Deleted >>> - ouikikazz 18:06:50 04/19/11 So let me get this straight.... - Serg300zx 18:10:46 04/19/11 generally you'll find that the positive pressure - soulpwr 20:29:02 04/19/11 The VG head has ports where the pressures SHOULD - KongZTT GT28RS MD 20:36:08 04/19/11 Am I understanding your logic? - enthuZiast 19:03:29 04/19/11 Re: Am I understanding your logic? - enthuZiast 19:09:05 04/19/11 Re: Re: Am I understanding your logic? - Dallas DamonZ 08:39:16 04/20/11 thanks for the info, I think I'll still go with a catch can - FuerGrissa 19:17:40 04/19/11 Re: thanks for the info, I think I'll still go with a catch can - enthuZiast 19:20:58 04/19/11 SZ has been doing this for a while...except the filter part - ZonaZ 19:20:10 04/19/11 same here, I did mine like this following Piranha's and your - DarkZide 20:27:18 04/19/11 no issues yet? - aliaZ 22:29:37 04/19/11 I am more worried about oil entering my plenum and - DarkZide 23:33:28 04/19/11 all engines have blow-by - aliaZ 05:55:21 04/20/11 Good job DarkZide... glad it worked out for you :) (n/m) - Piranha 18:11:59 04/20/11 I've had mine deleted for over 40k miles. - xpwarrior 20:22:57 04/19/11 2nd the 1/4" BSPT plugs, correct thread (n/m) - ZonaZ 21:20:42 04/19/11 British thread is hard to find! - zfreak(Dallas) 21:35:17 04/19/11 have you had an oil analysis done? - aliaZ 22:20:43 04/19/11 No I haven't done an oil analysis but.. - xpwarrior 08:50:25 04/20/11 I did this and oil got contaminated quickly - sparkie 02:02:28 04/20/11 Exactly! - DVDBURN (MD) 03:39:48 04/20/11 Good link ty (n/m) - ztunerz 04:15:13 04/20/11 agreed (n/m) - aliaZ 05:47:02 04/20/11 I change my oil every 3K miles. If your oil doesn't smell - Ash's Z 08:26:02 04/20/11 The advantages are not clear cut to me... - Zarcasm(Hfd, CT) 10:13:42 04/20/11 Fuel in the oil will reduce lubircity and accelerate wear. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 10:41:32 04/20/11 Understood. But the question here is how much is too much? - Ash's Z 10:53:26 04/20/11 IMHO, I'm not buying the value of deleting it. Just IMO (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 11:03:31 04/20/11 Give Greg D a call and your opinion will change :) (n/m) - Piranha 21:06:00 04/20/11 the only objective way to assess the impact of deleting the - aliaZ 11:26:48 04/20/11 ^^^^^ This is the best advice! 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(n/m) - Wright (Ca) 11:56:09 04/20/11 correct (n/m) - aliaZ 13:05:17 04/20/11 Another pro for MAP (n/m) - ztunerz 17:41:03 04/20/11 wouldn't the oil still get sucked in from the exhaust VC's? - ali300zx 10:47:17 04/20/11 yes (n/m) - aliaZ 13:06:20 04/20/11 Nice, writeup. Did this on a number of Z's in the past, and - Milo (SATX) 13:03:36 04/20/11 Re: Nice, writeup. Did this on a number of Z's in the past, and - aliaZ 13:12:09 04/20/11 Agreed. 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